Defendant Lobby no. 42

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An apology

So the other day I got pretty heated about a certain BZP contest.

First, let me say up front: from the evidence I’ve seen now, I’m not convinced what happened was entirely a misunderstanding.  I understand I might be wrong on that, but there’s no decisive proof here either way, and what I’ve seen makes me feel that way.  So parts of the sentiment I expressed in that post stand.

But - I posted that before hearing anything from the other side involved, and working off of evidence that seemed more complete than it was.  On top of that, I let my knee-jerk reaction get the better of me.  In other words, in a post I intended to call out negativity in the fandom (with a few allusions to other issues like poor fact-checking) - I was being pretty damn negative, and I didn’t check things through as much as I thought.

I’m sorry for any role that post played in fanning the flames.  I made it because I was angry that it looked like a positive way of having the fandom interact was being twisted and made negative - and in doing so I only made that negativity worse.

At this point, it’s kind of pointless to remove (it’s been reblogged elsewhere, and as I said above, I still in part feel the way I did when I wrote that post), but I’ve added a link to Kahi’s take on things.

Moral of the story: if you see me reaching to make an indignant post, spray me with one of those cat bottles and tell me to wait fifteen minutes.

that-1-cactus:

i remember krahka and onewa being a thing?

[eyes slowly slide over to the left]

deadmanswrench:

You called, Becca?

deadmanswrench:

You called, Becca?

lime-paradox:

Maybe I’m missing something but what did they really do wrong here

Like yeah the way they went about this was pretty dickish but it’s not like they CHEATED or anything if I’m understanding this correctly, no matter when they chose to vote they probably would have voted against DV anyway

I’m just saying I remember a while back the TTV crowd threw a fit because we promoted a BAC entry on the Lunacy and it won and they thought that was unfair or something, so aren’t we kind of validating their dumb ideology there by taking issue with their coordinating voting thing

My issue with it - as I hope I made clear - is that they purposely threw a contest for the sake of getting back at one participant, and they did it in such a way as to provoke as much as possible.  Then they taunted BZP directly about it.

I realize I’m now getting very serious business over a building contest on a fansite about a kid’s toyline, but - these contests are supposed to be fun and enjoyable for the community, and that’s badly undermined by people turning them into a ground for their own personal revenge.  And as I said before, it only worsens inter-site relations.

I’m honestly not a fan of the Lunacy/BAC promotion stuff, but at least that was a “vote for us”, not “don’t vote for them”.  (Unless it was the latter, in which case I’m giving you one hell of a side-eye.)

(Source: dviddy)

[Note: This was written before TTV had a chance to say anything on their side of the story.  You can read a response from one of their members here.  For now, I won’t be posting more about this until more solid evidence comes to light.]

dviddy:

Admins can indeed see who voted individually.

I almost screenshotted it wen they all suddenly showed up, but thought “naww man, I’m sure they all already voted”. And then when it popped up with all of the votes and they were down there I messaged both Andrew and Jen with the info of who was in there and what happened. I’ve lost a lot of contests, I’m not generally upset about losing one fairly. Losing one because of a coordinated effort? Bullshit.

Technically, without proof of when they voted, you don’t have an ironclad case.  Fortunately, that’s not needed:

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(Source: https://twitter.com/thethreevirtues/status/493608434827141120)

Anyone from TTV reading this: for shame.  I say that in all seriousness.

It’s true Pat went pretty brutal on you guys recently on BZP.  But if you have an issue with that, take it up with him personally.

This contest was not about Pat.  It was about all the MOCs submitted from the community.  It was about BZP as a whole, and the many talented MOCers we have - some of whom I’m sure are fans of your work as well.

You purposely messed with that out of petty revenge, and then you went and taunted BZP about it directly.  Contrary to what you might think, I don’t have intrinsic beef with TTV.  Some of your members I’ve had bad experiences with.  Some of your reporting I’ve not been a fan of.  Hell, I’ve heard some really awful rumors in general.  But you’ve also done good analysis and lookbacks, and you play a role in the greater Bionicle fandom.

Stuff like this only hurts the fandom as a whole.  I would much rather have a world where BZP, TTV, and any other Bionicle fansites out there were on good terms, and each served different parts of the community.  You are directly spitting in the face of that idea because you dislike one BZP staff member.

As a friend of Pat’s, you anger me.  As a staff member of BZP, you disappoint me.  And as a member of this fandom, you embarrass me.

http://bookofholsety.tumblr.com/post/93080970328

dviddy:

dviddy:

cabooceratops:

dviddy:

TTV folks confirmed for assholes.

What’d they do?

They sat in the Flickr voting poll and waited until 11:59EST (which is technically when the contest ended) and all voted for the MOC I had finally established a lead over to guarantee I lost…

Yes they did it while visible.

Down at the bottom of the thread in the “now viewing this topic” box were me, Kakaru, and then Var, Eljay, Viper, The Other Makuta, Meso, and a few others who cross-reference with members on their new forums.

Kakaru virulenthearts was sitting on the couch next to me. Can confirm.

Given this is a pretty serious accusation, did you at least screencap the page? Otherwise this is on its way to he-said-she-said.  (Unless admins can view who voted in polls individually.)

cabooceratops:

Guys how do I do the BZPower I have been gone for too long and have no idea where to start.

I mean, aside from post my builds in BBC. =P

[puts on FL sunglasses, hops into FLmobile, fails to manage stick shift, goes careening off a bridge]

Okay but seriously: posting builds in BBC is honestly not a bad place to start! A lot of BZP community is based off the creative side of things, so getting your work out there, and commenting on others’, is a great way to start to get to know people.

The blogs and COT are pretty casual, so if you click around there and see a topic you’re interested in, stop in and make a post or two.  In terms of the actual thing the site is about, Bionicle Discussion and Bionicle S&T have been revving up a bit lately, so it’s worth giving those a look as well.  (Disclaimer: BZP policy says no discussing leaks or possible leaks directly, sorry.)

Ideally you’d make an “I’m back” blog entry, but premier week just ended and “I’m back” topics are still kinda frowned upon AFAIK.

Basically just give it a shot.  The recent rumors/etc. have certainly increased the active base, but it’s not like the old days where you could get lost in the flood of posting.

bzpowerconfessions:

“i am really annoyed that i can’t say “gay as fuck” in order to describe tahu and kopaka and/or onua and lewa without being filtered”

I can confirm BZP-appropriate ways of expressing this sentiment are “tahu makes kopaka’s ko-koro go doki-doki” and “actually there’s no beating around the bush here, onua and lewa have interest in a homoromantic relationship with each other”

bzpowerconfessions:

i am really annoyed that i can’t say “gay as fuck” in order to describe tahu and kopaka and/or onua and lewa without being filtered”

I can confirm BZP-appropriate ways of expressing this sentiment are “tahu makes kopaka’s ko-koro go doki-doki” and “actually there’s no beating around the bush here, onua and lewa have interest in a homoromantic relationship with each other”

More writing questions

robissexyashellism, virulenthearts, this is on you, so you better read this you nerds

(Full ask meme here!)

What is your favourite piece that you have done?

This is a toughie! It’s a three-way toss-up between “An Aftermath”, “The Shadow and the Sea”, and “The Days They Were Needed and The Years They Were Not”.  Each let me get into a character (or characters) who felt kind of stiffed by canon, and it was a lot of fun picking them apart.  Ultimately, I might give the nod to “An Aftermath” - it’s a little rougher than the others, and not a lot ‘happens’, but writing about Kiina and Onua was a lot of fun, and I got to get into a little more depth with them.

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This one gets its own post

Show us at least one piece that you wrote recently that you did not put on a public site.

This is recent-ish (like, late last year - I wasn’t joking about not writing much lately).  You might recognize these two from a certain other fic.

Also immediate disclaimer: I wrote this during NaNo and so it’s rough as helllllllll.  It’s also like, part of one chapter of a huge fic.

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